Raena Morgan: What are some natural ways to treat arthritis? Dr. Todd Ferguson: Looking at arthritis and looking at the cause of arthritis, there are many different natural treatments. First of all, you can think about tropically. There are things you can rub on your joints that make them feel better. One would be capsicum, capsaicin which is a constituent of cayenne pepper, red pepper and it is being shown to deplete substance peel, which is a molecule involved in pain and it also has a anti-inflammatorily effect. So, it does a decent job of relieving pain and inflammation. There is also menthol products in various herbal tropicals, you can put on. What I guess, what I usually get most interested is in the cause. Something like osteoarthritis does really well when treated with one anti-inflammatory diet. So eating more fruits and vegetables, more colorful things that can give you flavonoids. Less red meats, less vegetable oils and more fish and fish things like that. But also herbs that affect pain and inflammation like devil's claw or turmeric, glucosamine sulfate and drying sulfate, all those things can really affect osteoarthritis very well. The other thing, I found would be really effective for osteoarthritis is laser therapy and it is not some I usually use by itself although, it could be in a several study is showing its effectiveness by itself. But I’m usually using in the context of also, you know, making more anti inflammatory diet, as well some anti inflammatory herbs and the laser together and that combination, I’ve had really amazing results. Raena Morgan: And that’s called low level laser? Dr. Todd Ferguson: Called low level laser. It is not the type of laser that is used in surgery to cut things. It is a lower power. So it is not and it has a divergent beam. So, its not, you don’t get the high heat intensities, that cut. It has more therapy to healing effect. Now, when it comes to treating autoimmune type of arthritis like rheumatoid arthritis, its much more complicated, its much more multi factorial. There is a lot of things involved and there is, but I see patterns and the patterns I see in rheumatoid arthritis is, that, a lot of people have a dysbiosis. They have a some sort of imbalance in their gut flora. Raena Morgan: Okay. Dr. Todd Ferguson: That is contributing. You get too much of the bad Bactrian to led all the good bacteria and those bad bacteria, when they eat up food particles, that produce toxins, then absorb and contribute to pain and inflammation. That also has the effect of damaging the intestine. So, I often see intestinal inflammation in people with rheumatoid arthritis and I see that through an intestinal permeability test. They have what’s called a leaky gut syndrome. And what that makes you susceptible for is, when you have a leaky gut, then things get into your body, that shouldn’t be getting in. That increases the amount of things here, immune system has the deal with and so your immune system starts becoming overreactive and you actually become reactive to some of the foods you are eating. Raena Morgan: Okay. Dr. Todd Ferguson: And when your immune systems is overactive, then that’s going to cause more of those immune complexes that lodge in the joints of people of Rheumatoid arthritis. So, I look at, is there a dysbiosis. If they have leaky gut syndrome, to their food sensitivities and those things are very commonly seen. The other thing is people with rheumatoid arthritis often have hormone imbalances. They have, in some women they have over production of Prolactin. They have imbalances in their Estrogen, Progesterone and in Testosterone and Cortisol. So, if you those symptoms seem to indicate that all, test for that as well. Raena Morgan: Well, that’s some good information. Thank you very much. Dr. Todd Ferguson: Thank you.