Journalist Gwynne Dyer explains the potential consequences if climate change is not stopped, and why people are scared to live in a carbon neutral society.
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Gwynne Dyer: Scientists are very scared. The military are getting scared. The next American government under Mr. Obama will be collectively scared at last. Rebecca: Some say climate change could end the world as we know it, but what happens before that end could be even more catastrophic. Hi I'm Rebecca and welcome to watchmojo.com. And today we’re speaking with journalist Gwynne Dyer about climate wars. Now you're saying that the climate change is the single most important problem that we’re going to deal with. Gwynne Dyer: What climate change does first about global warming is most of all in terms of what’s important to human beings is cutting food supply. Well you know you have to eat. It’s not negotiable. If countries are facing really serious food shortages, people starting to go hungry really bad things happen. Bad things happen inside those country, bad things happen on the boarders because people try to find somewhere else to go and sometimes bad things happen that even involves wars. So that’s where you have to look next. If we get too deep in warming process so much of this political people will be going and its going to very hard to make any kind of international deal on getting the emissions done, which is after all how you're fighting to resolve this problem. Rebecca: In your opinion, have we done anything up-to-date that has helped? Gwynne Dyer: We’ve basically wasted 10 or 15 years that we could have been working on getting the emissions down and that’s gone, we don’t get it back. You’ve got to get out of fossil carbon. Ultimately you’ve got to get out of it completely. There’s no room for half measures here. Rebecca: Why aren’t people yet prepared to live in a carbon-neutral society? Gwynne Dyer: They think it would be disastrously expensive and would force them to change their lifestyle drastically. None of which is actually true. I mean I'm not one of these people who believe we ought to go around wearing a hair shirt and doing penance for your sins. This is a high-energy society it will remain, but we will never die as a high-energy society because there’s no other way you keep 6.5 billion people alive. That’s industrial agriculture. Conservation in the short run helps because it gives us more time, but the ultimate goal is to replace your fossil fuels with other means of generating power. At which point how much power you use seizes to be an issue. So you want your lifestyle, here it is you can have it back it’s just been decarbonized. And if people understood that that is the ultimate goal rather than we live miserably ever after, I think they might be a little bit less reluctant.