In this video, young fathers discuss their experience becoming parents.
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Emma Howard: I am Emma Howard and welcome to Baby Talk. Today's show has a distinctly paternal feeling. We'll be speaking to Jim Parton from the Charity Families Need Fathers and we'll be joining our very and famous fathers in Real Dads to hear what it meant to them to start a family. But first, joining me on the sofa to talk about being a new dad, a parenting expert Tim Mungeam and Nick Turner Turner, you are new dad. Nick Turner Turner: I am. Emma Howard: Of five and half month old Bethea. Nick Turner: Five and a half months, yeah, Bethea. Emma Howard: Nice to meet you. You said, you are 33 I want to say first. Is it that weren't you ready before, so why now? Why at 33 you're ready to be a dad? Nick Turner: Rachel, my wife and I got married about two and half years ago. We thought we give it a kind of a couple of years before we start a family. Then started trying in, Bethea came in quite quickly. But I mean, I genuinely don't think I have been ready before the early 30s. Those things, I need to do things, we need to be a couple before we had children. Emma Howard: You fit in this very important kind of image of man today, doesn't it? Tim Mungeam: Absolutely. Emma Howard: Irresponsible young boys go out and play the field and travel a lot and not the same is for women too, and quite rightly. But somehow this idea that men really do need to be a bit older than women to enjoy fatherhood, do you think? That's really true, do you think? Tim Mungeam: Well, I mean I think it's bit of a steroids. I think the reason -- a grain of truth, isn't it really that. You know I think now speaking as man, you like to hold on -- I think it's a little bit of an emotional and mentally for many dads, what they say, well, this is moving from just essentially be able to look after myself and -- Emma Howard: Very selfishness? Tim Mungeam: Yeah. Emma Howard: Nothing wrong with that. Tim Mungeam: No, no -- we haven't got those things to worry about. But then when fatherhood comes along, I think this - even those necessarily changing, I think there is a kind of late think within dads, which is still that kind of, no you want to be a bit of a provider and you want to -- Emma Howard: Yes. Tim Mungeam: All those things, that kind of tradition even still come with parenthood. So I think it does take a little bit of an emotional leap. Sometime say, well, this is the time. I mean certainly for me as a dad of three boys. When we took decisions to how to try for our first Jack, it was totally quite mental leap and I thought it was almost a decision, nothing gets broad as so many thought. Well, if we want to have children as a couple, we should get on with it really. Emma Howard: Now interesting enough, you've married quite well early, you got married early, young at 24. Tim Mungeam: Yes. We had a lot of chance look our friends now in case -- yes, we actually married quite a while. We thought be good to -- we wanted to get married and we thought there are things we want to do as a family, as a couple. So and families will -- children were going to play a part in that at some stage but we weren't in any major hurry. Though we -- a little bit the grandparents, potential grandparents saying, oh we are expecting -- Emma Howard: Yes, you've been together for long enough now. Tim Mungeam: Yeah exactly so you come up with some -- statements about my -- anybody. Emma Howard: You are offended. You must be very brave. But you clearly had a plan. Tim Mungeam: -- Emma Howard: Clearly not with -- do you think Nick Turner that being a dad now has how has changed you in the way that women often talk about it, take -- I see smitten dads, I see changed people, do you feel that? Nick Turner: Absolutely, I mean absolutely. Let's come back Tim was saying about kind of the commitment issues. Really to me the big commitment issue was about being ready to get married. Then once I was married, we decided to get married, then it was quite natural progression to start thinking, okay I