A group of dads discuss their experiences with fatherhood and how to deal with new babies.
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Kevin Day: You know one thing I never gotten used to even though it's annoying, is the amount of people, complete strangers even, who feel that they can give you advice about child birth. When you walk through the streets with pregnant women, you go to the shops with an infant child, the amount of people who feel today entitled to give you advice about how to raise that child. It's still somebody now in local super market -- she constantly says well you've got another child you know. You can't even know your own child. It's not fair to; it's none of your business. We raise that child as -- and the whole terrible thing with parents, two sets of parents who clearly love you daily but all the way through the pregnancy feel unbound to tell you in exact detail what things worked in their day. How things are not as good and now a day how the child birth thing is to -- you just get bombarded by person - so much is contradictory. You don't know what to tell, you've got National Child Birth sending one way to raise your child. You're right there looks how to enable you to raise your child. He has got natural instinct telling you to you do this way. You've got grand parents, you head explodes in the end. Damion Queva: I think Kevin says that they tend to descend on these suddenly. Yeah you could say you got this exhaustion. It's actually you're trying to think quite amount now, baby is down. I think another big thing is that my wife Barbara and I both are quite strict about it. We didn't want everybody picking out the baby unless why should have require angle about that way. - This kind of -you know that can be very early stage I can pick every thing up so [Cross talk] We are really conscious of it. Some reason we have to be so conscious that you know- Kevin Day: Somebody brought that -somebody said that to you. Damion Queva: Yeah, the midwife said look be careful when I pick up the baby they come in if specially if they've been specially stroking and all kinds of different thing but the scariest thing about a coming what he disease is called when you touched a cat and then touch a baby and that top thing rude kind of paranoid without first -- This is it precious and no way we're going to let anything happen. So we like when someone coming oh! Show us the baby -- would you mind washing your hand. I know it sounds really dumb but we would like that. The other thing was exact is that everyone found out, brothers, sisters and -- that it was like home of protection. You know your first two years are just like- Chris Brooks: Every minute the door bell rings and somebody new is coming through the door and you feel bad for saying and eventually we're going say though. We're going to have a couple of babies of on our own, sorry grand parents and sorry friends. Kevin Day: I mean its that whole in-laws be in-laws thing as well, isn't it. Even now we get that. Now we're said that the different ways of process of grandparents has their own rising children sending to school with their help. But we don't have a reason but it wasn't it easier for you had the second or third child? You did become more -- Jonathan Wills: Much more relaxed I mean again yeah I put all viruses part of your left on shelves and give us this whole idea. She has number three. She just to maintain -- kind of thing. And she had but it again we sort of talked about that how the different don't having a character of changed but number three is different to number one. Because number one had absolutely everything as you say. Pulled into from hand washing to god knows what and as the number three is been picking dead and cows whatever is in it. Yeah, I mean it's right exact great meet the results of it. Kevin Day: I do have to say we would the one piece of advice often stalk. You do get bombarded. I went to every -- emotion is really its -- when I might completely assume that the situation arises. The one piece of advise and I have actually lived by this. We had to child psych

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