Raena Morgan: In your experience Dr. Kohls, what causes psychiatric disorders and how do you evaluate them? Dr. Gary Kohls: Well, in my long experience, ever since I worked at a mental institution 15 years ago, people who are labeled mentally ill, and these were institutionalized patients where I started out my experience in the psychiatric industry...they were all victims of serious psychological trauma. At their roots they were victims of abuse or sexual, physical, spiritual abuse, physical violence, deprivations, poverty, cruelty. Cruelty in child rearing results in criminality or mental illness 100% of the time unless that person has somebody in their life, preferably an adult who understands that the person, that the kid was being victimized and not guilty and not the perpetrator. Otherwise, without any understanding from some adult or some other person, that child is going to go down a path of criminality or mental ill health. And so cruelty in child rearing is a massive one. So every kid that's been beaten or abused or neglected or are a victim of incest is destined to have some problem unless there's some intervention. In my experience, mental illness, so called mental illness...I prefer to call it mental ill health because none of us are totally mentally well...is caused by trauma, psychological trauma in any of a thousand different ways. In order to cure it or prevent it...if we know that there's a cause then we know there's a way to prevent it. Raena Morgan: So that's how you evaluate it. You find out what the cause is. DR. Gary Kohls: Find out what the cause is. And oftentimes just in evaluating what the cause is, we do good therapy. People will say, "oh, I'm not bipolar" or, "I don't have borderline personalities like I've been told for years and I've been on these drugs because of that. I was just a victim." That's therapeutic just by itself to just go through that process of saying, "hey, it wasn't your fault. This isn't a mental illness that's genetic, this is an environmental or a cultural thing. You were a victim." And racism and poverty, those things are institutionalized victimization by a culture, by society, by a racist society can cause people to go down that path of criminality or mental ill health. I think that this. I read somewhere that 45% of Americans are mentally ill or they have a label of mental illness. Forty five percent of them. And I think it's probably true if you look at the diagnostic coding or what's on their computerized information. Forty five percent of us have been diagnosed as major depressive disorder, chronic anxiety or some sort of thing like that. That's absurd. Maybe America's crazy. In some ways it is, but I think to say that half of us are mentally ill is absurd. But that's the psychiatric industry and the pharmaceutical industry that fosters this labeling. Doctors have to put a label on something in order to get paid by insurance. There has to be a code number so we...in order for someone to come with us we have to diagnose them with something and if they're just complaining of sadness, well then we label depression. So now that person goes into the computer as one of the 45% that's mentally ill. They have a mental illness label. That's scandalous. Raena Morgan: That's very alarming too. DR. Gary Kohls: That's alarming. So getting back to this question, I think psychiatric disorders are preventable forms of violence that once, if you haven't done a prevention and you don't know the cause, then you're going to have that person go down a path where they're going to be brain disabled by the drugs, which may wind up with ultimate unemployability or lack of creativity or they're just not as good an employee as they could be. If they get on three or four or five drugs and raise doses, it's more likely that they're going to be disabled. A lot of people who are working and they're on one or two drugs and they may be struggling, but they may be able to handle employment, but they're