More Queries About Rh-Negative Blood
Tuesday, September 25, 2007
Kenneth F. Trofatter, Jr., MD, PhD
The following two comments recently appeared on my post addressing
Implications of a Negative Blood Type. The first reader's question is worth repeating because MANY readers have asked the same question (in various forms) and the explanation is fairly simple. The second reader's questions revolve around potential complications of
Rh-sensitization in someone who is attempting to conceive by
in vitro fertilization with donor sperm. Her situation is NOT unique today and many other women may be interested in my responses to her queries as well...
Anonymous said...
Hi,I have a daughter who is
O negative. I also have a son who is O positive.
I am O positive and my wife is O negative. Is this possible?Kenneth F. Trofatter, Jr., MD, PhD said...
To anonymous Sept 24: Yes, it simply means that you are
heterozygous for the Rh D antigen. That means you have one chromosome that carries the gene for D and one that does not. Your wife has two that do not because she is Rh-negative and if she had even one dose of D, she would be phenotypically Rh-positive just like you because D is a dominant allele. Anyway, odds are that half of your kids (male
and female) would be expected to be Rh-positive and half Rh-negative based on percentages alone (and no other extenuating circumstances). Sounds like that's what's happened so far in your family. Hope that helps. Thanks for reading! Dr T
lotsofdecisions said...
Hi. I became sensitized to Rh during my pregnancy with my daughter. My questions:
1) Does the fact that I was sensitized at my daughter's birth impact the problems I may have with a future pregnancy? I'm using donor sperm and know that the donor is O+ and heterozygous. How great is the risk? My titers are around 1:4.
2) After 2 unsuccessful IVFs to avoid having a second O+ child, I am about to admit defeat re: giving my daughter a full sibling. My question: should I consider only O- donors? It seems like using an A- or B- donor could result in as great of issues as if I used my daughter's donor.
3) How concerned should I be about CMV? I'm CMV negative. I've lived in the Northeast as well as the South. It seems like I'd have contracted CMV if I were susceptible to it.
Sorry this is so long. Thanks in advance. Kenneth F. Trofatter, Jr., MD, PhD said...
To lots of decisions Sept 20:
1) Yes, your
Rh-isoimmunization could have an impact on a future pregnancy. If your donor is heterozygous for Rh-positivity, there is a 50% chance your babies from that donor will be Rh-positive and potentially at risk for
"Rh disease." You are currently at relatively low risk for complications with a titer of only 1:4. The risk begins to rise dramatically once your titer exceeds 1:16. During a pregnancy, I would recommend you have your titer checked every 4-6 weeks, especially if it begins to rise. In fact, if it does rise during a pregnancy, that probably confirms the baby is Rh-positive. We can currently assess risk for fetal anemia by a noninvasive study called
Doppler flow velocimetry of the peak systolic velocity in the baby's middle cerebral artery. It's not as hard to do as it is to pronounce!
2) If you are using an Rh-positive donor, you
cannot be sure that the baby is not Rh-positive until you test fetal cells by some sort of invasive procedure (
chorionic villus sampling,
amniocentesis,
percutaneous umbilical cord blood sampling). You would be better starting off with an Rh-negative donor because then the baby CANNOT be Rh-positive. It does not matter whether that donor is A-, B-, O-, or AB-. The problem is with Rh, not the major blood group antigens.
3) CMV negativity is a BIG concern to me in your situation. (Check out a couple of my earlier blogs on that subject as well). You may be at risk for contracting that from your donor or you could simply contract it from someone else,
especially your daughter, who is VERY likely to pick it up if she spends time around other kids. It is
spread by all kinds of body fluids (e.g., blood, urine, and drool) and it is unlikely you are "not susceptible" to catching it; you probably have just been UNLUCKY enough not to have been exposed to it earlier in your life. I say unlucky, because if you did happen to catch it during a pregnancy, the
results could be quite devastating to the baby. Thanks for reading and the great questions and BEST of luck to you too! Dr T
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Readers' Concerns Regarding Rh-immune Globulin and ABO-Incompatibilty
Monday, September 17, 2007
Kenneth F. Trofatter, Jr., MD, PhD
Anonymous said...
Great information! I just miscarried and I want to know why. I am 0- and received a Rhogam shot at 28 weeks with my 1st child. I did not receive a shot after delivery--I checked my records. Did this (not receiving a shot) contribute to my miscarriage? Wendy
Sun Sep 16, 12:10:00 AM 2007
Kenneth F. Trofatter, Jr., MD, PhD said...
To Wendy Sept 16: I am sorry for your recent loss. The most common cause of sporadic miscarriage in women who have had successful pregnancies is a fetal chromosomal abnormality. With regard to your other question, the routine would have been to give you Rhogam after you delivered UNLESS your baby happened to be Rh-negative as well. It is very unlikely that not getting the Rhogam after delivery caused you to miscarry your recent pregnancy. That doesn't even seem to be a problem with individuals who ARE clearly
Rh-isoimmunized. It's dealing with those pregnancies after the first trimester that becomes the challenge! Regards, and thanks for your question.
Dr T
Sun Sep 17, Prefering Anonymity said...
My wife just delivered a baby girl 5 days ago who has elevated bilirubin levels with the cause thought to be ABO incompatibility. My wife is O-negative, I am A-positive and our daughter is A-positive/Combs-positive. My wife was not administered rhoGAM at any point during or after her pregnancy/delivery. Our pediatrician caught the jaundice fairly early and daughter is seems to be recovering, but I am also quite concerned with whether my wife and I can now safely have another child, as she did not receive rhoGAM. Is it possible for us to safely have another child and what would we need to do or screen for to do so? My thanks to you in advance.
Kenneth F. Trofatter, Jr., MD, PhD said...
To preferring anonymity Sept 16: Your wife did not NEED Rhogam if your daughter was Rh-negative. ABO incompatibility is another issue. All people with O blood types make antibodies to A and B blood groups. They are exposed to those antigens in the environment (bacteria) and do not even need to be exposed to another human's blood to generate these antibodies. However, usually these antibodies are of the
IgM class of antibodies. IgM antibodies are very large and basically contain a pentamer (5 antibodies) joined together. They are TOO BIG to cross the placenta to the baby. Occasionally, individuals also make anti-A or anti-B antibodies that are
IgG class antibodies. These CAN cross the placenta and, indeed, IgG antibodies are a major source of 'immunity (passive immunity)' against common pathogens for the baby during the first 3-6 months of life.
Unfortunately, the placenta doesn't differentiate between 'good' (protective) IgG antibodies and antibodies that might harm the baby. This is the same problem with
Rh-isoimmunization when it occurs. The antibodies from the mother cross the placenta, attach to the fetal tissues that are foreign (in your baby's case blood group A red blood cells) and that signals the baby's immune system to destroy whatever the antibodies are attached to - at that point the baby's immune system cannot distinguish what uis 'foreign' and what is 'self'! With the destruction of the baby's own red cells, hemoglobin is released and its breakdown product, bilirubin, can cause jaundice and more serious problems if the bilirubin levels get high enough. When the baby has used up all the antibody it has gotten from Mom, it will not have anymore problems.
To answer your other question, yes it is safe to have another baby under these circumstances. Often ABO incompatibility isn't much of a problem until after the baby is born, unlike with severe Rh-isoimmunization. Your doctors can assess the degree of fetal anemia
in utero, indirectly, by doing peak systolic velocity of blood flow in the baby's middle cerebral artery by Doppler flow velocimetry if you are worried about fetal anemia during the pregnancy. Let them explain that to you! Best of luck, congratulations on your new baby, and thanks for reading and the great questions.
Dr T
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